[Libre-silicon-devel] KiCAD VLSI design

[ludwig jaffe]

Electric:
"Download the latest "Java" version"
It was translated to Java, this says it all.
The tool is not under much development. And the old "ugly" C-Version
is still there. Maybe, one could take some of the C code and build it
into KICAD.
It would be an advantage to design in 3D view like a brick that gets
structured.
A PCB design is just layers with the approach how to route my cable. But
a chip design is a 3D structure consisting of different layers which should
be
visible as a rotated brick.
Maybe one can use CAD FreeCAD but with smaller grid, of course:-)


On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:52 PM Hagen SANKOWSKI <hsank at posteo.de> wrote:

> On 1/20/19 9:16 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote:
> > Has the Electric integrated circuit CAD software been considered and
> > rejected for some reason?
> >
> > https://www.staticfreesoft.com/
>
> Yes.
> We evaluate a lot of tools during our 1st Hackathon in May last year.
> Unfortunately no tool matches our need.
>
> In my humble opinion it was a bad move from Electric to switch to Java.
> Java catches more programmer on the good side but also has do deal with
> a huge memory footprint.
> I guess, that our clients playing with smaller laptops than with big
> iron. So memory is an issue as long as dealing with VLSI (routing,
> placement, and all the other stuff) needs a lot of them. Both, Java and
> the design which needs memory also probably does not fit into laptops.
>
> > While I am a big fan of KiCAD, it seems to me that starting out with
> > something originally created for integrated circuits would be a better
> > choice. In fact, Electric also has resources allowing it to be used for
> > PCBs but it would be awkward for that compared to KiCAD. I can see that
> > using a single tool for everything would be attractive, however. I am
> > just not sure it is practical.
>
> We would get more VLSI designer, if we are using a familiar GUI for most
> of them. Something like KiCad which has a great momentum, or Lepton EDA
> (a active gEDA fork) could be help. Our first attempt was to clone QFlow
> (http://opencircuitdesign.com/qflow) - which also needs a lot of work.
> The effort to doing all the stuff alone is to big for us - our small
> team is already occupied.
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