https://www.techpowerup.com/255715/u-s-tech-industry-including-google-micros...
As I know now, there are involved at least
- Intel / Qualcomm with LTE / 5G modems - Xilinx with FPGAs - Infineon with power electronics
and many, many others.
The worst case IMHO would be, when there are rising up two branches of technology (one for the Americans in their cheese dome and the other one with Chinese vendors) which are completely incompatible..
Hello List.
I guess, soon Huawei phones doesn't contain ARM CPUs anymore ;-)
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/22/18635326/huawei-arm-chip-designs-business...
I am very curious, whether they are using RISC-V or MIPS instead.
BTW, ARM is a subsidiary of Softbank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank_Group) - a Japanese Company..
Hi all,
it would be a big chance for huawei to show the US monopoly that they can do without them. Have a RiscV CPU and an open source GPU (is there anything better than vga with bit blit as open source verilog?) Also having a fully open source lineage os would be an asset. When they throw money on open source projects I would consider buying from them as one gets a spyware free phone. I doubt that huawei builds in backdoors as cisco does. The nsa is based in the usa and china does not have anything in knowing my date with the dentist. While google and the nsa is nosy about such data. So I would trust huawei more than cisco and google.
So having a more open source huawei company and a huawei lineage os phone with risc V would be a strong asset for the open source movement.
Cheers
Ludwig
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, Hagen SANKOWSKI hsank@posteo.de wrote:
Hello List.
I guess, soon Huawei phones doesn't contain ARM CPUs anymore ;-)
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/22/18635326/huawei-arm-chip-designs-business...
I am very curious, whether they are using RISC-V or MIPS instead.
BTW, ARM is a subsidiary of Softbank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank_Group) - a Japanese Company.. _______________________________________________ Libre-silicon-devel mailing list Libre-silicon-devel@list.libresilicon.com http://list.libresilicon.com/mailman/listinfo/libre-silicon-devel
Hi
it would be a big chance for huawei to show the US monopoly that they can do without them. Have a RiscV CPU and an open source GPU (is there anything better than vga with bit blit as open source verilog?) Also having a fully open source lineage os would be an asset. When they throw money on open source projects I would consider buying from them as one gets a spyware free phone. I doubt that huawei builds in backdoors as cisco does. The nsa is based in the usa and china does not have anything in knowing my date with the dentist. While google and the nsa is nosy about such data. So I would trust huawei more than cisco and google.
Exactly my opinion as well!
So having a more open source huawei company and a huawei lineage os phone with risc V would be a strong asset for the open source movement.
I've talked to Ruopeng today, whether he could go and promoted LibreSilicon among his fellow PhDs and Professors he knows. Hopefully we can capture Huaweis attention by becoming a research project at HKUST.
Cheers -lev
On Wed, 2019-05-22 at 14:16 +0200, ludwig jaffe wrote:
Hi all,
it would be a big chance for huawei to show the US monopoly that they can do without them. Have a RiscV CPU and an open source GPU (is there anything better than vga with bit blit as open source verilog?) Also having a fully open source lineage os would be an asset. When they throw money on open source projects I would consider buying from them as one gets a spyware free phone. I doubt that huawei builds in backdoors as cisco does. The nsa is based in the usa and china does not have anything in knowing my date with the dentist. While google and the nsa is nosy about such data. So I would trust huawei more than cisco and google.
I personally wouldn't trust Huawei any more I would trust Cisco at-all or the NSA, and I did work for CISCO and other US companies where we did get visits from (literally) man in black requesting "specific features".
It will be interesting if Huawei will chose an Open Source path, or create a internal closed alternative. Since Android OS is open source, I would suspect they will continue using that and just replace the proprietary Google apps with their own. As to hardware, I would suspect they will create their own, closed variety, most likely based on RISC-V.
So having a more open source huawei company and a huawei lineage os phone with risc V would be a strong asset for the open source movement.
Cheers
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Well,
On 5/22/19 3:20 PM, Rudolf Usselmann wrote
I personally wouldn't trust Huawei any more I would trust Cisco at-all or the NSA, and I did work for CISCO and other US companies where we did get visits from (literally) man in black requesting "specific features".
Since Snowden *we already know*, that there are dedicated NSA bug-/back-doors in Cisco products.
The US ban comes up, while *somebody speculates*, that there *could be* some bug-/back-doors in Huawei products.
This is a big difference - and still with a probability, there aren't backdoors in Huawei products.
BTW, ARM is also the Owner of the AMBA AXI System-on-Chip bus, which is unfortunately quite popular. Losting this license would mean to rewrite *all* IPs with another interface.
Regards, Hagen.
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, ludwig jaffe ludwig.jaffe@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
it would be a big chance for huawei to show the US monopoly that they can do without them. Have a RiscV CPU and an open source GPU (is there anything better than vga with bit blit as open source verilog?)
Will be within estimated 1 year. https://libre-riscv.org/3d_gpu/ check it tomorrow, though, mythic beasts had to do an emergency hardware replacement
Also having a fully open source lineage os would be an asset. When they throw money on open source projects I would consider buying from them as one gets a spyware free phone. I doubt that huawei builds in backdoors as cisco does.
I am applying for a 2nd grant to create formal mathematic correctness proofs of the hardware. This will have the fascinating side effect that independent verification of the design's total lack of spyware backdoors can be mathematically proven.
The nsa is based in the usa and china does not have anything in knowing my date with the dentist. While google and the nsa is nosy about such data. So I would trust huawei more than cisco and google.
So having a more open source huawei company and a huawei lineage os phone with risc V would be a strong asset for the open source movement.
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