On August 15, 2021 7:52:52 PM UTC, "David Lanzendörfer" leviathan@libresilicon.com wrote:
In some ironic twist of faith the current situation might be actually really good for Islamists because right now everyone is paranoid about COVID and forgets about extremist Islamic terror LOL
dis-eases don't care what your beliefs are: maybe the extremists will realise we're all human after all, eh?
l.
I understand your sensitive and islamophobia however please be reminded that all populations be it european, chinese, american, indian, etc have extremists. So confining this into a small population is funny.
And most of you guys are globally traveling people who have seen the good and bads of this world I hope.
In my perspective you can not associate any kind of terrorism with a religion because they are all based on the well being of humanity and living a joyful, happy, united life with other beings and nature.
Religions have been used to drive less lucky people in terms of socio economic status since centuries including in Europe. People from same religion killed each other for years because someone above them was not satisfied with what they had in terms of wealth, soils etc.
Today, in this global world we are more and more connected and the only way to resolve this is to bring real education and economic empowerement to less fortunate be it christian, muslim, jew, atheist, deist or satanist from whatever background they are.
Like you said we are all human no matter what we believe in and we all seek love, food and dignity. Unifying is a better approach especially for us scientists as we are all highly educated individuals who should lead the world to be better and we are responsible for future generations. Let's be a bit more responsible with our words and how we use them to unite and not separate.
As Mevlana said:
Come, come, whoever you are. Wanderer, worshipper, lover of leaving — it doesn't matter, Ours is not a caravan of despair. Come, even if you have broken your vow a hundred times, Come, come again, come
Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi (Rumi)
-------- Original Message -------- On Aug 15, 2021, 2:08 PM, lkcl < luke.leighton@gmail.com> wrote:
On August 15, 2021 7:52:52 PM UTC, "David Lanzendörfer" leviathan@libresilicon.com wrote:
In some ironic twist of faith the current situation might be actually really good for Islamists because right now everyone is paranoid about COVID and forgets about extremist Islamic terror LOL
dis-eases don't care what your beliefs are: maybe the extremists will realise we're all human after all, eh?
l.
Yeah. Agreed. I mean the whole topic anyway went off rails kind of. It's better we don't talk about politics on here, although with western governments intruding in our innovation by putting rocks in our way with unbeneficial legislation this was bound to happen. We have many members here on the list, ranging from Pakistan, over Iran to Israel, as well as the People's Republic of China. Many different people with different backgrounds and different believes. Politics is probably the worst show stopper in projects and teams when trying to get stuff done, so I suggest we avoid it in the future to the best of our abilities.
Cheers -lev
On Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:44:09 PM WEST Dilek Isik Akcakaya wrote:
I understand your sensitive and islamophobia however please be reminded that all populations be it european, chinese, american, indian, etc have extremists. So confining this into a small population is funny.
And most of you guys are globally traveling people who have seen the good and bads of this world I hope.
In my perspective you can not associate any kind of terrorism with a religion because they are all based on the well being of humanity and living a joyful, happy, united life with other beings and nature.
Religions have been used to drive less lucky people in terms of socio economic status since centuries including in Europe. People from same religion killed each other for years because someone above them was not satisfied with what they had in terms of wealth, soils etc.
Today, in this global world we are more and more connected and the only way to resolve this is to bring real education and economic empowerement to less fortunate be it christian, muslim, jew, atheist, deist or satanist from whatever background they are.
Like you said we are all human no matter what we believe in and we all seek love, food and dignity. Unifying is a better approach especially for us scientists as we are all highly educated individuals who should lead the world to be better and we are responsible for future generations. Let's be a bit more responsible with our words and how we use them to unite and not separate.
As Mevlana said:
Come, come, whoever you are. Wanderer, worshipper, lover of leaving — it doesn't matter, Ours is not a caravan of despair. Come, even if you have broken your vow a hundred times, Come, come again, come
Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi (Rumi)
-------- Original Message --------
On Aug 15, 2021, 2:08 PM, lkcl < luke.leighton@gmail.com> wrote:
On August 15, 2021 7:52:52 PM UTC, "David Lanzendörfer"
leviathan@libresilicon.com wrote:
In some ironic twist of faith the current situation might be actually really good for Islamists because right now everyone is paranoid about COVID and forgets about extremist Islamic terror LOL
dis-eases don't care what your beliefs are: maybe the extremists will realise we're all human after all, eh?
l.
On August 15, 2021 10:44:09 PM UTC, Dilek Isik Akcakaya trdilek@protonmail.com wrote:
I understand your sensitive and islamophobia
not at all. whatever islamophobia exists in the world i certainly do not associate it with myself in any way shape or form or by way of pronouns, verbs, adjectives, nouns, thoughts or energy patterns.
to be explicit instead of using indirect irony: i said that perhaps the extremist narrow views held by some would melt away or be seen to be utterly irrelevant by those same extremists, given that global rapid distribution of viruses affect every one - every human -regardless of their beliefs. the extremists would have witnessed their families and friends die just as easy as the people they perceive as being "problematic".
thus perhaps they would, one might hope, have learned the valuable lesson and perspective that you described so well.
and now for something completely different. we now return to our usual topic of silicon development.
l.
Thank you, very much. Now lets get back to being productive and being a cat which catches mice, as Deng Xiaoping would say :-)
Cheers -lev
On Monday, August 16, 2021 12:05:39 AM WEST lkcl wrote:
On August 15, 2021 10:44:09 PM UTC, Dilek Isik Akcakaya
trdilek@protonmail.com wrote:
I understand your sensitive and islamophobia
not at all. whatever islamophobia exists in the world i certainly do not associate it with myself in any way shape or form or by way of pronouns, verbs, adjectives, nouns, thoughts or energy patterns.
to be explicit instead of using indirect irony: i said that perhaps the extremist narrow views held by some would melt away or be seen to be utterly irrelevant by those same extremists, given that global rapid distribution of viruses affect every one - every human -regardless of their beliefs. the extremists would have witnessed their families and friends die just as easy as the people they perceive as being "problematic".
thus perhaps they would, one might hope, have learned the valuable lesson and perspective that you described so well.
and now for something completely different. we now return to our usual topic of silicon development.
l.
"lets get back to being productive": agreed. BTW, this mailing list has a world-readable, persistent HTML archive.
Regards,
Ferenc
On 16/08/2021 01:21, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
Thank you, very much. Now lets get back to being productive and being a cat which catches mice, as Deng Xiaoping would say :-)
Cheers -lev
On Monday, August 16, 2021 12:05:39 AM WEST lkcl wrote:
On August 15, 2021 10:44:09 PM UTC, Dilek Isik Akcakaya
trdilek@protonmail.com wrote:
I understand your sensitive and islamophobia
not at all. whatever islamophobia exists in the world i certainly do not associate it with myself in any way shape or form or by way of pronouns, verbs, adjectives, nouns, thoughts or energy patterns.
to be explicit instead of using indirect irony: i said that perhaps the extremist narrow views held by some would melt away or be seen to be utterly irrelevant by those same extremists, given that global rapid distribution of viruses affect every one - every human -regardless of their beliefs. the extremists would have witnessed their families and friends die just as easy as the people they perceive as being "problematic".
thus perhaps they would, one might hope, have learned the valuable lesson and perspective that you described so well.
and now for something completely different. we now return to our usual topic of silicon development.
l.
Haha. Yeah. Good point! Everyone should be aware, that this mailing list is public. I just figured I underline the end of this political debate with a Maoist quote as a cherry on top xD
On Monday, August 16, 2021 12:26:29 AM WEST Ferenc Éger wrote:
"lets get back to being productive": agreed. BTW, this mailing list has a world-readable, persistent HTML archive.
Regards,
Ferenc
On 16/08/2021 01:21, David Lanzendörfer wrote:
Thank you, very much. Now lets get back to being productive and being a cat which catches mice, as Deng Xiaoping would say :-)
Cheers -lev
On Monday, August 16, 2021 12:05:39 AM WEST lkcl wrote:
On August 15, 2021 10:44:09 PM UTC, Dilek Isik Akcakaya
trdilek@protonmail.com wrote:
I understand your sensitive and islamophobia
not at all. whatever islamophobia exists in the world i certainly do not associate it with myself in any way shape or form or by way of pronouns, verbs, adjectives, nouns, thoughts or energy patterns.
to be explicit instead of using indirect irony: i said that perhaps the extremist narrow views held by some would melt away or be seen to be utterly irrelevant by those same extremists, given that global rapid distribution of viruses affect every one - every human -regardless of their beliefs. the extremists would have witnessed their families and friends die just as easy as the people they perceive as being "problematic".
thus perhaps they would, one might hope, have learned the valuable lesson and perspective that you described so well.
and now for something completely different. we now return to our usual topic of silicon development.
l.
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